November 24 / 15.40 Thurles

15.40

Yielding

Start Christmas Here December 18th (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle

  • Prize money: £4957.98
  • 2m 0f 33y
  • 18 runners
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Start Christmas Here December 18th (Q.R.) Maiden Hurdle

Runners: 18 runners

Type: Hurdle Turf

Surface: Turf

Weather: Showers

2/5 (Won)

  • Win: £1.20
  • Place: £1.02

Form: /2354-

Last run: 208 days

W: 11st 4lb

4 yo Gelding

OR: 137

Form & Verdict
Finished second in Vichy bumper before joining Willie Mullins and thrown in at the deep end on all three hurdles starts last season behind stablemate Vauban; fine staying-on third in Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown and in Triumph at Cheltenham raced a bit too keenly and didn't quite get home in finishing fifth of 12; not quite at that level in Champion 4yo Hurdle at Punchestown when not fluent at times; hooded now for seasonal return and head and shoulders above these on form.
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1st

5

30th Nov 2023

Yielding

2m 2f 91y

12:10 Thurles

Il Etait Temps

11st 12lb

J: Paul Townend

T: W P Mullins

led narrowly or disputed lead early, raced in second from 2nd, not fluent 5th, jumped slightly left 8th, pressed leader when mistake 3 out, led going best home turn, went clear approaching last, pushed out, comfortably

5/4

2nd

4

25th Apr 2023

Yielding

2m 0f 100y

16:15 Punchestown

Il Etait Temps

11st 12lb

J: Danny Mullins

T: W P Mullins

in touch with leaders, not fluent 2nd, headway after 3rd, bad mistake and lost second 4th, smooth headway and challenging after 2 out, pushed along and outpaced approaching last, kept on, no match for winner

3/1

5th

8

14th Mar 2023

Soft

2m 0f 87y

Class 1

13:30 Cheltenham

Il Etait Temps

11st 7lb

J: Danny Mullins

T: W P Mullins

Only fifth in the Triumph last year but has improved in a hood this term, finishing 4l second to stablemate Facile Vega in the Grade 1 Future Champions at Leopardstown (2m, soft) before impressive win in the Grade 1 Tattersalls Ireland Novice Hurdle there (2m, yielding; hot favourite Facile Vega flopped); could again play leading role under regular rider Danny Mullins.

9/2

20/1

  • Place: £4.00

Form: 5-

Last run: 333 days

W: 10st 11lb

5 yo Mare

OR:

Form & Verdict
Saddler Maker mare ran well for a long way on Down Royal debut last Christmas in a decent maiden; all the better for that experience but will need to improve a fair bit to feature on return from long absence.
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2nd

14

24th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 33y

15:40 Thurles

Helisone

10st 11lb

J: Mr R A Berry

T: Henry De Bromhead

Saddler Maker mare ran well for a long way on Down Royal debut last Christmas in a decent maiden; all the better for that experience but will need to improve a fair bit to feature on return from long absence.

20/1

13/2

  • Place: £1.40

Form: 37-

Last run: 212 days

W: 11st 4lb

4 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Promise in both bumpers in the spring, second occasion when midfield behind stablemate Absolute Notions in the Goffs Land Rover Bumper at Punchestown; likely major player now switched to hurdles.
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6th

1

26th May 2023

Good

2m 0f 100y

17:10 Limerick

Ideal De Ciergues

11st 12lb

J: Danny Gilligan

T: Gordon Elliott

prominent

9/4

3rd

10

14th May 2023

Good To Yielding

2m 1f 0y

14:25 Killarney

Ideal De Ciergues

11st 4lb

J: Keith Donoghue

T: Gordon Elliott

soon led

9/4

4th

8

20th Dec 2022

Yielding To Soft

2m 2f 183y

13:35 Naas

Ideal De Ciergues

11st 7lb

J: Davy Russell

T: Gordon Elliott

Promise in both bumpers in the spring, second occasion when mid-field behind stablemate Absolute Notions in the Goffs Land Rover Bumper at Punchestown; started over hurdles with a fair run in third behind the long odds-on Il Etait Temps at Thurles; mistake at the last probably cost him second; should be in the mix now.

4/1

Form:

Last run:

W: 11st 4lb

4 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Soldier Of Fortune 4yo cost 28,000Euros as a foal and 64,000Euros as a 3yo; half-brother to winners Ballymoy (smart 2m-3m1f hurdle/chase), Sierra Oscar (2m4f hurdle) and Fete Champetre (bumper/2m hurdle); dam bumper/2m4f hurdle winner, half-sister to 2m3f-3m hurdle/chase winner Invictus; newcomer may need more time but worth a market check.
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6th

5

21st Nov 2023

Heavy

2m 0f 0y

13:00 Limerick

Chiefs Kingdom

11st 12lb

J: Conor Smithers

T: Paul Nolan

Has run in good company on occasions; narrowly beaten in a Killarney maiden hurdle in May; two lesser displays before being given a break; much more like it again at Clonmel when chasing home subsequent Navan Grade 3 winner Croke Park; obvious prospects now.

11/4

2nd

2

26th Oct 2023

Heavy

2m 0f 125y

14:00 Clonmel

Chiefs Kingdom

11st 12lb

J: Sean O’Keeffe

T: Paul Nolan

didn't always jump with fluency, soon midfield, in touch with leaders when ridden home turn, headway when switched left before 2 out, went second but no chance with winner approaching last, kept on

7/1

7th

1

7th Jul 2023

Good

2m 4f 150y

17:05 Wexford

Chiefs Kingdom

11st 12lb

J: Sean O’Keeffe

T: Paul Nolan

midfield

10/1

Form: 6525

Last run: 21 days

W: 11st 4lb

5 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Maiden pointer has shaped well in bumpers, notably second at Listowel (2m4f, good) under forcing tactics; didn't jump fluently on recent hurdles debut here over much longer trip, showing some promise; likely needs more experience.
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7th

6

2nd Nov 2023

Soft

2m 2f 66y

12:55 Thurles

Song For My Father

11st 12lb

J: Jordan Gainford

T: Ross O’Sullivan

didn't always jump with fluency, prominent early, in touch with leaders when mistake 4 out, weakened before 3 out

14/1

6th

6

6th Oct 2023

Yielding To Soft

2m 3f 55y

16:45 Downpatrick

Song For My Father

11st 12lb

J: Tom Harney

T: Ross O’Sullivan

Placed in a bumper at last year's Listowel festival but hurdles form not good enough to suggest a major chance on chase debut and first run since January.

14/1

Form: 8-0

Last run: 12 days

W: 11st 4lb

5 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Recent Naas comeback run represented a step in the right direction but lots more likely needed here.
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3rd

6

19th Nov 2023

Soft To Heavy

2m 6f 0y

13:55 Navan

Slane Hill

11st 0lb

J: Michael O’Sullivan

T: Barry Connell

held up in rear, headway on near side of group 2 out, soon switched left and ridden, went third but no extra before last, no match for first two

9/2

1st

8

21st Apr 2023

Yielding

2m 6f 0y

19:10 Kilbeggan

Slane Hill

11st 12lb

J: Michael O’Sullivan

T: Barry Connell

held up in midfield, awkward jump and prominent 3rd, jumped left 4th

4/1

8th

10

18th Feb 2023

Soft

2m 4f 20y

14:52 Gowran Park

Slane Hill

11st 5lb

J: Michael O’Sullivan

T: Barry Connell

Left his previous form behind when landing a maiden hurdle at Naas in December and solid effort on his handicap debut here (soft to heavy) last month; only nudged up 2lb and he's a big player again, although ground is likely to be quicker this time.

4/1

Form: 0-0

Last run: 53 days

W: 10st 11lb

4 yo Filly

OR:

Form & Verdict
Second reserve; well held both bumpers, best watched now switched to hurdles.
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21

28th Dec 2022

Soft

2m 4f 0y

12:00 Leopardstown

Rockonjade

11st 0lb

J: P J O’Hanlon

T: Richard Morrissey

Well beaten in two bumpers and suffered the same fate on her hurdling debut at Thurles; very opposable.

200/1

7th

17

24th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 33y

15:40 Thurles

Rockonjade

10st 11lb

J: Miss P Elvin

T: Richard Morrissey

Second reserve; well held both bumpers, best watched now switched to hurdles.

Form:

Last run:

W: 10st 11lb

5 yo Mare

OR:

Form & Verdict
Pulled-up in both starts in points; declared with tongue-tie here for Rules debut and best watched.
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6th

15

2nd Nov 2023

Soft

2m 0f 13y

14:40 Thurles

Outdoor Mozzy

10st 13lb

J: Miss P Elvin

T: P J Rothwell

Best effort so far saw her finish 7l behind Destivelle when third of 15 over C&D a fortnight ago; trainer having an excellent season.

10/1

3rd

13

19th Oct 2023

Yielding

1m 7f 202y

15:25 Thurles

Outdoor Mozzy

10st 13lb

J: Miss P Elvin

T: P J Rothwell

Promising sixth at Punchestown at the start of the campaign but well held both starts since; much more needed.

25/1

Form: P0/

Last run: 612 days

W: 11st 12lb

5 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
65-rated flat handicapper got off the mark at Leopardstown last month, race may have come too soon when well beaten 4 days later; two hurdle runs in March 2021 moderate, stopping quickly on heavy ground when favourite on debut; tried hooded now for hurdles return but may be of more interest when tackling handicaps.
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9th

6

29th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 57y

12:50 Punchestown

King Arthurs Sword

11st 12lb

J: Danny Mullins

T: M D O’Callaghan

Soft-ground Flat winner at Leopardstown last month; made little impression on his recent return to hurdling action at Thurles.

33/1

9th

1

24th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 33y

15:40 Thurles

King Arthurs Sword

11st 12lb

J: Mr H C Swan

T: M D O’Callaghan

65-rated flat handicapper got off the mark at Leopardstown last month, race may have come too soon when well beaten 4 days later; two hurdle runs in March 2021 moderate, stopping quickly on heavy ground when favourite on debut; tried hooded now for hurdles return but may be of more interest when tackling handicaps.

33/1

18th

7

(4)

26th Oct 2022

Soft To Heavy

1m 2f 0y

15:25 Curragh

King Arthurs Sword

10st 0lb

J: Colin Keane

T: M D O’Callaghan

midfield, pushed along 3f out, weakened and eased under 2f out

13/2

Form: 080

Last run: 12 days

W: 11st 4lb

5 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Nothing so far in maidens, easily passed over.
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0

12

28th Nov 2023

Soft

2m 5f 0y

14:00 Tramore

Will It Be You

11st 1lb

J: Richard Deegan

T: Liam P Cusack

Chased home an easy winner over 3m at Wexford in August; not so good when tried in cheekpieces at Killarney.

14/1

8th

11

1st Oct 2023

Yielding

2m 6f 180y

15:35 Killarney

Will It Be You

10st 9lb

J: Richard Deegan

T: Liam P Cusack

No chance with easy winner when second in 3m Wexford handicap but that was big step up on previous efforts; headgear.

10/1

Form: 35

Last run: 21 days

W: 11st 5lb

5 yo Mare

OR:

Form & Verdict
Fair Flat handicapper rated in the 70's whose opening two hurdle runs here recently offered some promise but likely to be of more interest in handicaps.
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6th

4

(8)

18th Oct 2023

Soft

1m 6f 0y

Class 1

16:00 Bath

Pachmena

9st 6lb

J: Shane Kelly

T: Gavin Cromwell

Ended a long long losing run when landing a handicap at the Curragh (1m4f, soft) 11 days ago and she was a fair third over 1m2f there last Thursday; seems as good as ever but this is a tough assignment in this Listed event and she's untried at this trip; yard also runs Vera Verto.

16/1

3rd

1

(5)

12th Oct 2023

Yielding To Soft

1m 2f 0y

16:45 Curragh

Pachmena

11st 10lb

J: Mark McDonagh

T: Gavin Cromwell

towards rear

5/2

1st

7

(5)

7th Oct 2023

Soft

1m 4f 0y

14:20 Curragh

Pachmena

10st 11lb

J: Miss Georgie Benson

T: Gavin Cromwell

travelled strongly, towards rear of midfield

10/1

Form: 00-60

Last run: 11 days

W: 11st 4lb

6 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Nothing yet in bumpers and maiden hurdles; safely ruled out.
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2nd

14

6th Oct 2023

Yielding To Soft

2m 5f 110y

16:10 Downpatrick

Wee Jerry

10st 13lb

J: Benjamin P Kennedy

T: Neill McCluskey

jumped left on occasions, soon led, mistake 5th

20/1

5th

13

15th Sep 2023

Good

2m 1f 165y

15:25 Downpatrick

Wee Jerry

10st 13lb

J: Benjamin P Kennedy

T: Neill McCluskey

Really struggling for form of late, including over 2m2f here last time out; hard to recommend.

33/1

10th

14

28th Aug 2023

Good

2m 1f 165y

14:40 Downpatrick

Wee Jerry

10st 13lb

J: Benjamin P Kennedy

T: Neill McCluskey

Unplaced on all 14 starts over hurdles; has struggled on last three starts in Britain; one of his better displays was when fifth over C&D in June.

25/1

Form:

Last run:

W: 11st 5lb

4 yo Filly

OR:

Form & Verdict
Modest enough but progressive Flat handicapper in second half of this past season at Dundalk, winning twice; not sure she can make an immediate impact hurdling.
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7th

1

(14)

22nd Sep 2023

Standard

1m 2f 150y

20:00 Dundalk (AW)

Draco Pulchrac

10st 0lb

J: Ben Coen

T: A J Martin

Won twice here last year; unplaced three turf starts in the summer but came back to form with a fine run last time at Down Royal over this trip; should go well.

6/1

3rd

4

(1)

8th Sep 2023

Good

1m 2f 75y

18:40 Down Royal

Draco Pulchrac

9st 11lb

J: Ben Coen

T: A J Martin

Dual AW winner at up to 1m4f a year ago; Leopardstown comeback in June was encouraging but little impression since including over C&D six weeks ago; dropping back into this grade will help.

10/1

Form: 7

Last run: 42 days

W: 10st 11lb

4 yo Filly

OR:

Form & Verdict
Doyen filly never sighted when soundly beaten on debut in Tramore bumper last month; can only be watched here on hurdles debut.
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12th

11

2nd Oct 2023

Soft

2m 0f 0y

15:20 Fairyhouse

Georgie’s Gal

10st 8lb

J: Simon Torrens

T: P J Rothwell

Solid efforts in her first two handicap hurdles at Kilbeggan and Cork; well beaten at Downpatrick last time but softer ground here looks like a plus.

14/1

8th

10

28th Aug 2023

Good

2m 1f 165y

14:40 Downpatrick

Georgie’s Gal

11st 2lb

J: Simon Torrens

T: P J Rothwell

Has shown enough in her first two handicaps to suggest she could go close in this company; sixth at Cork was not significantly worse than previous Kilbeggan third.

6/1

6th

14

7th Aug 2023

Good

2m 2f 150y

15:43 Cork

Georgie’s Gal

11st 2lb

J: Simon Torrens

T: P J Rothwell

Definite promise on last month's handicap debut at Kilbeggan, coming from well back when third over 2m2f (yielding-to-soft) in an admittedly weak enough race; shortlisted nonetheless.

9/1

Form:

Last run: 18 days

W: 11st 4lb

4 yo Colt

OR:

Form & Verdict
Ex Richard Hannon-trained; tailed off on recent Cork hurdles debut and easily passed over here.
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15

21st Mar 2023

Heavy

2m 2f 112y

13:55 Clonmel

Night Of Dreams

10st 8lb

J: P J O’Hanlon

T: P J Rothwell

Some ability on the Flat for Richard Hannon but nothing to recommend here; cheekpieces will need miraculous properties.

66/1

7

6th Dec 2022

Soft

2m 0f 50y

12:45 Tramore

Night Of Dreams

11st 12lb

J: James O’Sullivan

T: P J Rothwell

towards rear, mistake 4 out, weakened 3 out, tailed off when pulled up after 2 out

100/1

17

1st Dec 2022

Yielding To Soft

1m 7f 199y

14:02 Thurles

Night Of Dreams

10st 13lb

J: Donagh Meyler

T: P J Rothwell

Second reserve; ex Richard Hannon-trained; tailed off on both maiden outings last month, easily passed over.

Form: 3-13 D

Last run: 26 days

W: 11st 12lb

4 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Encouraging debut when third in Goffs Land Rover Bumper at Punchestown in April and returned to run away with Fairyhouse contest last month before encouraging hurdles debut third at Galway, keeping on well; return to better ground here should suit and definite contender.
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13th

3

4th Aug 2023

Good To Yielding

2m 0f 11y

17:00 Galway

Nucky Johnson

11st 9lb

J: Liam McKenna

T: Noel Meade

Showed useful form last Autumn, particularly when landing a Naas novice hurdle before a below-par effort in Grade 2 company; bounced back when fourth in strong looking contest at Punchestown 100 days ago and could figure on handicap debut.

14/1

4th

2

26th Apr 2023

Yielding To Soft

2m 3f 180y

16:15 Punchestown

Nucky Johnson

11st 10lb

J: Liam McKenna

T: Noel Meade

Has come a long way this season; won a Fairyhouse bumper, maiden hurdle here and a Naas novice, all over 2m; was well below form in a Grade 2 novice at Fairyhouse last time but has a shout if bouncing back to form over this longer trip.

6/1

6th

7

9th Apr 2023

Soft

2m 0f 0y

15:45 Fairyhouse

Nucky Johnson

11st 4lb

J: Denis O’Regan

T: Noel Meade

Bumper winner here and having been awarded a Punchestown maiden hurdle (hampered) then followed up with much better level of form after a 121-day break when produced run-in to reel in a long-time clear leader in 2m Naas novice 10 days ago; progressing well and could be up to this rise in class.

9/2

Form: 0/

Last run: 576 days

W: 11st 4lb

5 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
First reserve; tailed off in the 2021 Land Rover Bumper and not seen since; best watched.
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16

24th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 33y

15:40 Thurles

Hume Street

11st 4lb

J: Miss P Elvin

T: P J Rothwell

First reserve; tailed off in the 2021 Land Rover Bumper and not seen since; best watched.

14

30th Oct 2022

Soft

2m 0f 0y

14:00 Wexford

Hume Street

11st 4lb

J: Simon Torrens

T: P J Rothwell

First reserve; tailed off in the 2021 Land Rover Bumper and not seen since; best watched.

OUR TIP

Form: 00

Last run: 18 days

W: 11st 4lb

4 yo Gelding

OR:

Form & Verdict
Third reserve; huge prices and ran accordingly on both recent maiden hurdle runs; easily passed over.
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7th

13

2nd May 2023

Yielding

2m 0f 139y

17:18 Ballinrobe

Too Easy Mate

11st 4lb

J: Shane O’Callaghan

T: D E Fitzgerald

Huge prices and ran accordingly on both recent maiden hurdle runs; easily passed over.

100/1

18

24th Nov 2022

Yielding

2m 0f 33y

15:40 Thurles

Too Easy Mate

11st 4lb

J: Miss P Elvin

T: D E Fitzgerald

Third reserve; huge prices and ran accordingly on both recent maiden hurdle runs; easily passed over.

18th

14

6th Nov 2022

Soft To Heavy

2m 0f 0y

13:58 Cork

Too Easy Mate

11st 7lb

J: Shane O’Callaghan

T: D E Fitzgerald

Struggling at the back from a long way out when 100-1 on debut at Wexford last Monday.

100/1

Non-runners

Nucky Johnson, Hume Street, Too Easy Mate

+o+e Accumulators

Payout
Exacta €13.40
Straight Forecast €22.27
Trifecta €42.90

Selections

SPOTLIGHT:

Il Etait Temps

RP Ratings (IRE):

Il Etait Temps

TOPSPEED:

Il Etait Temps

POSTDATA:

Il Etait Temps

The Irish Sun:

Il Etait Temps